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Biokinesis: Limits of Changing Eye Color?

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    Zalanes

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    I want to start learning biokinesis, and it seems that changing one's eye color is a common place to start.

    I have read that biokinesis works by changing the underlying DNA or chromosomes in order to manifest the change. I have also read that it is possible to change one's eye color to an unnatural color. Is it possible to change your eye color to something unnatural like purple, pink, or silver?

    Also, because it is changing your genetics, would it be possible to make yourself heterochromatic without causing problems with your body accepting the changes? I know that there is a small chance that people will naturally be heterochromatic, but that is usually on chimera or caused by eye damage. Has anyone tried this without harmful side effects?

    Thank you for reading!
     
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    I don't think the people who write on biokinetics even know how to do it.

    I doubt it can change your dna as that would involve changing every cell in your body and your inherent structure of cellular reproduction. That simply isnt feasible.

    People make lots of outlandish claims and even more people make theories about things they know nothing about.

    Biokinetics takes a great deal of understanding and knowledge of anatomy and physiology. Most of the kids online haven't even completed high school and the understanding needed for success on a wide scale is college level and beyond.

    Anyways.

    Onto the act of changing the eye color i myself can do such through focus will power and a lot of energy. The effect is not permanent. It lasts around 10-15 minutes then begins to fade back to my natural color I am also limited to colors naturally occuring in my eyes. Meaning i can emphasis an existing color or makethe slight silvers and golds in my eye the predominant color. i am not able to make my eyes red or purple or some random rainbow color. As i don't have those colors in my eyes to begin with.


    The only side effect I've ever had was a slight headache from over exertion of energy. Not uncommon to anything using lots of energy.

    If long term fancy eye colors are your goal you'd be better off buying colored non prescription contacts which can be bought OTC and from almost any Halloween specialty store.
     
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    I have a huntch that anything related to biok should be done in the central nervous system, idk why though but Ill research a bit about this

    As for eye color change, same as Mammon here. My eyes can go from light honey-green to deep brown, but I dont really care about it
     
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    Zalanes

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    Thank you for the response.

    How does bioK work then? Does the energy just change the surface level directly? Does it directly manipulate the production of melanin in the eye? That might explain the short lived effect as the new cells revert back to the old way. If either of these are what happens, I would expect it to take a little longer than 15 minutes to completely revert.

    Also, I thought that it was possible to have two sets of DNA as long as it is not something major. Here is a source for this claim.
    http://hubpages.com/education/People-with-Double-DNA-An-Overview-of-Chimeras

    I do not mean to sound confrontational, I just wish to wrap my mind around this.
     
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    As far as the eyes go. There is no new cells just manipulation of naturally occuring pigments that cause a dilation of certain pigments and a contraction of the others resulting in what appears to be color change. In actuality it is just the proportions of each are changed to a degree that from afar they look different.

    The reason it reverts is as far as i have discovered its a sustainable state. The body has a default desired pigmentation and will not permently change as its genetic coding is to have certain pigments.

    In the case that they are changed they will change back given time and loss of stimulus causing the change.

    A better word would not be change but adaptation.

    No different than skin tanning to adapt to uv exposure the eyes are being adapted by energetic exposure of a paticular coding. Understanding how to influence the physical using energy takes a considerable degree of knowledge in both energy and anatomy. Specifically how the body wants to interact with various stimulus.

    The reason i find my tech to be temporary is much of the similar the reason we dont stay tan. when the energy stimulus goes so too does the pigment alteration fade to normal. Same for tans. When exposure to uv goes away the tan slowly follows.

    I imagine the short lived duration is due again to the fact the exposure is cut off completely. A short lived exposure to adapt that is then cut off just as briefly as it was applied is going to resonate in the bodies desire to revert in the same manner it was applied. The way the body sees it that adaptation is no longer needed and the stimulus being gone completely means it no longer seeks to maintain the form. So it reverts as rapidly as it was made. (15 minutes may seem long in comparison but to the body and adaption thats relatively quick)

    By this theory one i suppose could create a much longer more sustained change by continual focusing and application of the energetic stimulus. But i am too ADD for that.
     
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    Its entirely possible to have two sets of dna

    I just have never found any conclusive evidence that dna even is altered by biokinetics.

    Various stimulus and inactive proteins can be manipulated to drastic effects without ever needing to alter your dna.

    Heck your body technically has the ability to regenerate entire limbs the issue lies it doesn't have the appropriate amount of stems cells to pull it off.
     
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    Thank you for your explanation. I think I understand this more now.

    So if I understand this correctly, biokinesis is just adjusting the balances of certain bodily functions instead of directly changing parts of the body or genetics in order to cause change. So this would be useful for things like controlling one's hormone levels to produce small changes. For example, temporarily increasing one's melatonin levels to help cure insomnia. This seems to be a more productive (and realistic) use of bioK.

    As for the lack of continuous focus, why could you not make a construct that takes energy from some external supply and then directs that to the change you want? I apologize if this is a dumb question; I am still inexperienced at constructs.
     
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    Do you remember what type of mushroom does this? I found an article that says that certain species in the amanita genus produce a chemical, alpha-amanatin, that inhibits part of the RNA. As I understand it though, the RNA just serves as a tool to synthesise proteins in order to complete a particular task. So the DNA would still be more or less intact.

    I am not a biologist, so I could be wrong on this.
     
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    http://exploringorigins.org/rna.html
    "RNA plays a central role in the pathway from DNA to proteins, known as the "Central Dogma" of molecular biology. An organism's genetic information is encoded as a linear sequence of bases in the cell's DNA. During the process known as transcription, a RNA copy of a segment of DNA, or messenger RNA (mRNA), is made. This strand of RNA can then be read by a ribosome to form a protein. RNAs also play important roles in protein synthesis, as will be discussed in the ribozyme section, as well as in gene regulation."

    -Is the only one who ever bothers listing resources and frequently linking them.-
     
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    Thanks for posting this. It is very informative.

    If I understand this correctly DNA normally copies, or transcribes, directly to RNA and RNA normally only forms proteins with the help of ribosomes to form proteins. However, some viruses can make RNA reverse the process and transcribe DNA. So without RNA to act as an intermediary there would be no way for the DNA to form proteins that the body needs.

    This is mostly speculation, so please correct me if I am wrong.
    The amanita bisporigera produces a toxin that prevents RNA from producing proteins therefore shutting down the body. This leaves the DNA intact, but prevents it from doing anything. If you ingest enough of the toxin, you would die of a lack of proteins, caused by your RNA not functioning, but not directly because your DNA or RNA is messed up.

    I apologize for repeating the information already posted, but it helps me to think and remember if I rephrase what I learned.
     
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    I could probably develop a construct but that would require maintenence and to be perfectly honest i don't really care what color my eyes are i only originally tried to change them to see if it was even possible and to what extent if it was because it was all over the Internet.

    It can be used for adjusting balances but it is not limited.

    I have physically accelerated myself and others healing rate to literally close and heal a gash or cut before their eyes. Although thats limited by the number of spare nutrients in the subjects body as such it works best roughly 4hrs after the subject eats a large healthy meal preferably with protein. I can only heal as much as they have avaliable to use on healing however force overriding of bodily protocols to heal a 3-5 day wound in about half an hr is still pretty impressive.


    That so far is the extent of my abilities in biok i have yet to find anything that actually alters the body itself. Mostly just overriding protocols forcing certain productions via stimulus.
     
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    can yu explain how to close/heal a gash or a cut before their eyes? like ur method please?
     
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    Perhaps another time when i feel like writing an essay or more preferbly someone shows an acceptable level of competence but you need at least a college level understanding of human anatomy and physiology with an indepth understanding specifically of muscular and dermal tissues, the endocrine system and how it interacts with the bodies healing chemicals and an indepth understanding of the cardiovacular system and preferably more.

    Not many have the scientific knowledge and background understanding to do minor biok. Doing something of this magnitude is much harder and exhausting. I always need a nap afterwards.
     
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    The colours you could change your eyes to would be limited by the pigmented molecules the human body is able to manufacture. Any pigment that the body does not naturally manufacture should be assumed to be toxic; do not force your body to produce any molecule via biokinesis that it does not already make normally.

    Purple and pink as eye colours are caused by a deficiency in pigmented molecules in the eyes. This is usually found in albinism.

    Silver eyes are a form of gray which is technically a variation of blue eyes.

    But pigment molecules aren't the only factor in eye colour. I recommend doing a lot if research before you try biokinesis to change your eye colour.

    Folks performing biokinesis frequently talk about performing "little changes" as if it is an easy (but time consuming) process, when in reality even the slightest change is huge because of how everything in an organism interacts.
     
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    Very true
     
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    I think I should wait to practice biokinesis until I am a little better at the basics and biology. Thank you all, particularly Mammon, for explaining this.
     
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